Weiler Commodor 230 pirkti naudotą (184)

Būklė: naudotas, Swing over bed: 250 mm Swing over cross slide: . mm Centre distance: approx. 400 mm Centre height: approx. 125 mm Speed range: 80 - 3000 rpm Number of speed steps: 18 Spindle bore: 24 mm Tailstock quill taper: MT 3 Dedowa Dz Ejpfx Aahjcd Weight: approx. 400 kg Dimensions: approx. 1200 x 650 x 1300 mm Four-jaw chuck diameter: 125 mm Including Röhm four-jaw chuck, Ø 125 mm, including hard and soft jaws; Collet chuck system including collets 1-20 mm with 1 mm increments; Multifix size A with 3 tool holders; Chuck guard with interlock.

Būklė: geras (naudotas), Gamybos metai: 2000, Funkcionalumas: visiškai funkcionalus, sukimosi skersmuo virš skersinio stumduko: 180 mm, veleno skylė: 40 mm, tekėjimo skersmuo: 330 mm, tekinimo skersmuo virš slankiojančio stalo: 330 mm, centro aukštis: 165 mm, tekėjimo ilgis: 750 mm, plunksnos brūkšnys: 110 mm, sukimosi greitis (maks.): 2 800 aps./min, sukimosi greitis (min.): 22 aps./min, galia: 5,5 kW (7,48 AG), Įranga: sūkių greitis be galo kintamas, Weiler Condor AC infinitely variable lathe Djdpsruqzcsfx Aahecd

Būklė: labai geros būklės (naudotas), Funkcionalumas: visiškai funkcionalus, Provisur Weiler 878 mėsmalė, 50 AG modelis. Puikus įrenginys mėsainių, dešrų ar gyvūnų ėdalo gamintojams. Gali malti šviežią arba sušaldytą pjaustytą mėsą. Pratęstas bunkerio talpa. Dcodox Av Rujpfx Aahed

Būklė: naudotas, Gamybos metai: 1986, Swing over bed: 320 mm Swing over cross slide: 198 mm Turning length: 650 mm Total power requirement: 2.2 kW Machine weight approx.: 650 kg Space requirement approx.: 1700x1000x1700 mm Digital readout: 3-axis digital display Bar capacity: Ø 40 mm Spindle speed range: 96 - 2500 rpm Spindle nose: A 2 - 5 Feed range: 0.007 - 0.63 mm/rev Dcjdpfx Aeufud Doahsd Thread cutting capability: Metric 0.25 - 8 mm, Inch 80 - 2 TPI, Diametral Pitch threads 200 - 5 DP, Module 0.2 - 4 Tailstock: MT 3 3-jaw chuck: 160 mm Multifix quick-change toolpost: Type B

Gamybos metai: 1973, būklė: labai geros būklės (naudotas), Turning length 125 mm Machine weight approx. 0.4 t O F F E R We can offer you, without obligation and subject to prior sale and errors, the following from stock: W E I L E R Precision Mechanic Lathe Model MDU Year of manufacture 1973 #13010 _____ Centre height 125 mm Max. turning diameter over cross slide 140 mm Max. swing over bed 260 mm Distance between centres 500 mm Djdsxpxqwopfx Aahscd Spindle bore 28 mm Speed range – Setting 1: 220–1,800 rpm Speed range – Setting 2: 110–3,600 rpm Spindle drive kW Total drive kW - V - Hz Weight 500 kg Accessories / Special equipment • Equipped with a 3-jaw chuck by RÖHM 110 mm diameter, mounted • Machine base with integrated tool storage and comprehensive accessory package, including collet sets Condition : very good – ready for demonstration, ideal for training workshops, maintenance, etc. Please click here for a video of the machine: MDU260/4 Delivery : ex stock – as inspected Payment : strictly net on collection – after receipt of invoice

Būklė: geras (naudotas), Veda ir traukos varžtinė tekinimo staklės WEILER PRAKTIKANT 800 R Dodpfx Ajx A Uktsahecd - Tekinimo diametras virš lovos: 300 mm - Tekinimo diametras virš skersinio vežimo: 150 mm - Tekinimo ilgis: 800 mm - Veleno skylė: 42 mm - Sukimosi greičio diapazonas: 40 - 2000 aps./min - Automatinis išilginis / skersinis pastūmos - Sriegiai / metriniai / coliniai ir kt. - Galinis centras MK 3 - Trijų žiomenų griebtuvas - Drožlių nugaros sienelė + darbo šviestuvas - Drožlių padėklas - Keičiamos pavaros - Įrankių spinta - Dokumentacija Matmenys: I x P x A 1,8 x 0,8 x 1,6 m / Svoris 750 kg Pasilieka teisę daryti klaidas ir įrašų netikslumus.

Būklė: geras (naudotas), Leit & Zugspindel tekinimo staklės WEILER CONDOR - Originali dažai - Centrinis aukštis 165 mm - Tekinimo skersmuo virš lovos 330 mm - Tekinimo skersmuo virš supoorto 170 mm - Atstumas tarp centrų 800 mm - Špindelio apsukos 24 - 2800 aps./min - Automatinis išilginis / skersinis pastūmimas - Špindelio skylė 38 mm - Grąžto mova MK 3 - Fiksavimo įtaisas + 17 spaustukų - Trijų žandikaulių griebtuvas - Multifix su kasetėmis - Elektrinė griebtuvo apsauga - Drožlių užtvara - Darbo lemputė - Įvairūs priedai - Dokumentacija Dsdpfjx A D Ubex Aahscd Matmenys: Ilgis x plotis x aukštis 1,8 x 0,9 x 1,6 m / Svoris 800 kg Galimi netikslumai ir klaidos

Būklė: labai geros būklės (naudotas), Puiki būklė, reguliariai prižiūrėta (yra sąskaitos), daug priedų! Dodpfxexw D S Aj Aahscd

Būklė: naudotas, Gamybos metai: 1970, Weiler lathe with tailstock Djdshtnu Topfx Aahocd

Būklė: naudotas, Gamybos metai: 1993, Funkcionalumas: visiškai funkcionalus, Weiler / Contec (licencinė gamyba) Matador tekinimo staklės, pagaminimo metai 1993, su 3 ašių Elesta skaitmenine indikacija, keturių žandikaulių griebtuvu, Multifix, galiniu purškimo apsauginiu, elektrine griebtuvo apsauga. Staklės geros, paruoštos naudoti būklės, pagal susitarimą galima parodyti veikiančias. Dcsdpfsxp Rvljx Aahed

Būklė: naudotas, Gamybos metai: 1993, Funkcionalumas: visiškai funkcionalus, Weiler / Contec (licencinė gamyba) Matador tekinimo staklės, pagaminimo metai 1993, su 3 ašių Elesta skaitmenine indikacija, keturių žandikaulių griebtuvu, Multifix, galiniu purškimo apsauginiu, elektrine griebtuvo apsauga. Staklės geros, paruoštos naudoti būklės, pagal susitarimą galima parodyti veikiančias. Dcedpfx Asxp Ru Usahsd

Būklė: beveik kaip naujas (naudotas), Gamybos metai: 2019, Funkcionalumas: visiškai funkcionalus, Weiler Praktikant VCD Precision Gap and Leadscrew Lathe with 3-Axis Position Display, Infinitely Variable Speed, Like-New Condition, Year of Manufacture 2019 Technical Data: >> Year of Manufacture: 2019 Machine No. OD08 >> Center Height: 160 mm >> Swing Over Bed: 320 mm >> Swing Over Cross Slide: 190 mm >> Distance Between Centers: 650 mm >> Spindle Speeds: 30 to 4000 rpm (infinitely variable) >> Spindle Bore: 43 mm >> Short Taper Spindle Nose DIN 55027 Size 5 with Bayonet Lock >> Tailstock Morse Taper: MK 3 >> Number of Feeds: 24 >> Longitudinal Feeds: 0.02 to 0.63 mm/rev >> Cross Feeds: 0.006 to 0.2 mm/rev >> Threads: Metric, Imperial, Module, and Diametral Pitch >> Metric Thread Pitches: 0.25 to 8 mm >> Weight: approx. 1150 kg >> Spindle Brake >> Dimensions: Approx. length 1.72 m, height 1.7 m, depth 0.89 m Accessories and Equipment: >> Weiler Position Display >> Collet Device NEW Collets NEW from 3 to 26 mm >> 160 mm Three-Jaw Chuck with 1 Set of Jaws >> Multifix Size B with 3 Tool Holders >> 1 Bed Stop >> Splash Guard >> Coolant System >> Machine Lamp >> Operating Manual, Spare Parts Diagram For Safety: >> Lockable Main Switch >> Emergency Stop Mushroom Button >> Electrically Monitored Chuck Guard >> Automatic Disengagement of the Respective Handwheel When Feed Engaged Dodpjw Swkvofx Aahocd VCplus Position Display: >> 8" Color Screen >> 3 Axes for Bed, Cross and Compound Slide >> 99 Tool Memory >> Oriented Spindle Stop >> Input Option for Constant Speed or Cutting Speed >> Display of Feed and Thread Settings >> Thread Cutting with Electronic Stop About the Machine: For sale is a Weiler Praktikant VCD Precision Gap and Leadscrew Lathe with 3-axis position display, year 2019, in as-new condition and original paint. The machine is, of course, fully functional and comes equipped with new collets and chuck. Take the opportunity to inspect this machine under power on-site and see its condition for yourself.

Būklė: naudotas, Gamybos metai: 1985, Weiler Praktikant 140 lathe, year of manufacture 1985, three-jaw chuck, Multifix toolpost. The Z-axis guideway shows slight wear in the front section. The machine is in good, ready-to-use condition. Can be demonstrated under power by arrangement. Dedpfxsv N Awfs Aahscd

Būklė: naudotas, Gamybos metai: 1999, Swing diameter 150 mm Turning length 500 mm Total power requirement 4 kW Machine weight approx. 0.8 t O F F E R We can offer you, without obligation and subject to prior sale and errors, ex stock: W E I L E R LZS - Universal Lathe with Digital Readout Type PRIMUS VC Year of manufacture 1999 _____ Centre height 140 mm Max. turning diameter over cross slide 150 mm Max. swing diameter over bed 280 mm Distance between centres 500 mm Spindle bore 40 mm Stepless speed 30 - 4,000 rpm 24 longitudinal feeds 0.02 - 0.63 mm/rev 24 facing feeds (longitudinal feeds x 8) 0.006 - mm/rev Metric threads mm/pitch Inch threads 80 - 2 TPI Module threads Module Spindle drive 1.5 kW Total drive 4 kW - 380 V - 50 Hz Weight 800 kg Accessories / Special equipment • SIEMENS 3-axis digital readout with X-axis, Z-axis and incremental Z-axis (compound slide) • Multifix-A quick-change toolpost • Equipped with a 3-jaw chuck from WEILER 140 mm, mounted Dedpovm Dv Dsfx Aahjcd • Machine base with tool storage, integrated control cabinet, cooling system • Operating manuals Condition : very good – ready for demonstration Ideal for training workshops Delivery : ex stock – as inspected Payment : strictly net on collection – after receipt of invoice We look forward to your order. Further lathes of all sizes available from stock – please enquire.

Būklė: geras (naudotas), Gamybos metai: 1972, Swing diameter over bed: 330 mm Dcodpfx Aaowwl Izehod Swing diameter over cross slide: 200 mm Turning length: 800 mm Total power requirement: 3 kW Machine weight approx.: 800 kg Space requirement approx.: 1.9 x 0.7 x 1.2 m Speed range: 24–2800 rpm Accessories: * 2 chucks with spare jaws * 5 Multifix tool holders * Change gear set * Various centres and accessories

Būklė: naudotas, Gamybos metai: 1989, Swing diameter over bed: 300 mm Swing diameter over cross slide: 150 mm Turning length: 800 mm Spindle bore: 36 mm Speed range: 42 - 2000 rpm Feeds: 0.011 - 0.91 mm/rev Tailstock quill taper: MT 3 Total power requirement: 2.2 kW Dcodpfxjrdwfze Aahsd Machine weight: approx. 0.75 t Space requirements: approx. 1.7 x 0.8 x 2.0 m The machine was previously in service at a training centre and has seen very little use!

Būklė: labai geros būklės (naudotas), WEILER PRIMUS tipas MD-G Djdsxw H Dbjpfx Aahscd - Centrų aukštis: 125 mm - Atstumas tarp centrų: 400 mm - Sukimosi greičio diapazonas: 40–3000 aps./min - Špindelio skersmuo: 24 mm - Elektrinis griebtuvo apsaugos įtaisas - Multifix su įdėklais - Galinė atrama su gręžimo cilindru - Keturių žandikaulių griebtuvas - Darbo šviestuvas - Staklių lovos ribotuvas - Dokumentacija Matmenys: Ilgis x plotis x aukštis: 1,3 x 0,8 x 1,6 metro / Svoris: 450 kg Galimi netikslumai ir įvedimo klaidos.

Būklė: labai geros būklės (naudotas), Gamybos metai: 1992, Weiler Condor 81 Weiler Condor 81 Lathe with Heidenhain Digital Readout, year of manufacture 1992, in very good original condition. This machine comes from the training workshop of a renowned German mechanical engineering company. Technical Data: Year of manufacture: 2003 L + Z Lathe WEILER Type Condor 81 Center distance: 750 mm Swing over bed: 330 mm Center height over bed: 165 mm Swing over cross slide: 180 mm Center height over cross slide: 90 mm Spindle bore: 40 mm Chuck fitting: short taper DIN 55027 size 5 Tailstock quill taper: MT 3 Quill travel: 110 mm Spindle speed: 45 - 2800 rpm, 16 steps Drive power: 3 kW Power supply: 400 Volt, 50 Hz Spindle speed via 16 gear steps Space required (L x W x H): 1850 x 950 x 1400 mm Weight: 1100 kg Djdpfow T U Sgex Aahocd Accessories and Equipment: Three-jaw Röhm chuck Multifix quick-change toolpost Coolant system Heidenhain digital readout About the machine: We are offering a Weiler Condor 81 lathe with Heidenhain digital readout, year 1992, in very good condition. Of course, the machine is fully functional. The slides all move smoothly and evenly. Even at high speeds, the Weiler runs very quietly. This newer generation of lathes is very user-friendly and allows for producing ground-like surface finishes. Take the opportunity to inspect this machine under power on site and see its condition for yourself. You can find further lathes from well-known manufacturers on our website.

Būklė: naudotas, Funkcionalumas: visiškai funkcionalus, Šis Weiler Commodor tekinimo staklės yra iš technikos mokyklos, todėl turi mažai darbo valandų. Naudotos lengvai ir neapkrautos – tvarkinga, patikima mašina su ilgu tarnavimo laiku. Tekinimo ilgis: 1 000 mm. Tekinimo skersmuo virš lovos: 380 mm. Tekinimo skersmuo virš skersinio vežimo: 190 mm. Dcsdpfx Aew U Sx Heahod Verpstės apsisukimų skaičius: 25 – 2 000 aps./min. Greičių skaičius: 18 žingsnių. Verpstės skylė: Ø 56,0 mm. Verpstės kūgis: MK DIN 228 / MK 4. Verpstės flanšas: DIN 55027 / 6 dydis. Karučio eiga: 150 mm. Lovo plotis: 310 mm. Išilginis padavimas: 0,022 – 0,8 mm/aps. Skersinis padavimas: 0,011 – 0,4 mm/aps. Įtampa: 380 V. Bendra reikalinga galia: 7,5 kW.

Būklė: geras (naudotas), Gamybos metai: 2012, Funkcionalumas: visiškai funkcionalus, Weiler Praktikant VC Precision Lathe Manufacturer: Weiler Model: Weiler Praktikant VC Precision Lathe Year of Manufacture: 2008 Condition: Used, very good, serviced and inspected according to factory specifications with inspection report Technical Details Turning diameter: 250 mm Turning length: 650 mm Centre height: 160 mm Swing diameter over bed slide: 320 mm Max. swing diameter over cross slide: 190 mm Main Spindle: Speed range – main spindle: 30 – 4,000 rpm Drive power – main spindle: 10 / 6.0 kW Gear stages: 1 Spindle nose: 5 / DIN 55027 Spindle diameter in front bearing: 70 mm Spindle bore: 40 mm Usable bar diameter: 40 mm Tool Post: System: MultiFix B Turning tool shank cross-section: 20 x 20 mm Tailstock: Quill stroke: 85 mm Quill diameter: 40 mm Tailstock taper: MK 3 Feeds: Number of feeds: 24 Longitudinal feed: 0.02 – 0.63 mm/rev Cross feed: 0.006 – 0.2 mm/rev Thread Cutting: Metric: 0.25 – 8 mm Imperial: 80 – 2 1/” Module: 0.25 – 4 mm Travel: Cross slide travel: 150 mm Top slide travel: 110 mm Swivel range: 180° Total power requirement: 15 kVA Machine weight: approx. 1.0 t Space requirement: approx. 2.5 x 2.0 x 2.0 m Dcjdpfx Ajxd Tknoahed Scope of delivery: – Weiler Praktikant VC Precision Lathe – Machine lamp – Documentation – Three-jaw chuck – Tailstock – Multifix toolholder – 8x machine feet – Original tool set

Būklė: paruoštas naudoti (naudotas), Gamybos metai: 2003, Weiler E50 x 1000 Precision Lathe (2003) Manufacturer: Weiler Model: E50 x 1000 Year of manufacture: 2003 Condition: good, used, powered Operating hours: 43,000h Technical data: see images. Scope of delivery: - Original documentation - Rota S Plus 250-62 chuck - Steady rest - Parat 4-position tool turret Dcsdpjxd Tiksfx Aahed

Būklė: labai geros būklės (naudotas), Gamybos metai: 1998, Funkcionalumas: visiškai funkcionalus, mašinos/transporto priemonės numeris: 4397, Dear Sir or Madam, For sale is a Weiler Praktikant 160 AC lathe, year of manufacture 1998, equipped with an original Weiler 3-axis digital readout. This newer "AC" version is particularly notable for its infinitely variable speed control, further enhancing the already user-friendly operation of the machine. The machine has undergone an extensive partial overhaul in our workshop and is in excellent technical and cosmetic condition. All guideways are in good condition, the gearboxes run quietly, and the levers are easy to operate. You are welcome to inspect the machine on site to verify its condition for yourself. Availability: on request Machine number: 4397 Year of manufacture: 1998 Centre height: 160 mm Distance between centres: 650 mm Spindle bore: Ø 40 mm Spindle speed: 20–3000 rpm, stepless Tailstock quill taper: MT3 Quill stroke: 85 mm Longitudinal feed rate: 0.020–0.630 mm/rev Cross feed rate: 0.006–0.200 mm/rev Thread types: metric, imperial, module, diametral pitch Metric thread pitches: 0.25–8 mm Spindle brake: switchable Total connected load: 7.5 kVA Voltage: 400 V Dimensions: approx. 1.58 x 0.9 x 1.5 m (L x H x W) Weight: approx. 720 kg Further features and accessories: 3-axis digital readout, coolant system, chuck guard, 3-jaw chuck, and additional accessories on request... Our Service Promise to You: - We are a certified master workshop specializing in mechanical engineering - All machines are thoroughly inspected - All lubricants and any worn parts are replaced in advance - On request, we can fully or partially overhaul your chosen machine - On request, we can repaint the machine in your desired color Dcjdpfeq H D U Eox Aahsd - On request, you can order additional accessories such as tooling directly - On request, we can install additional accessories such as safety devices - We are happy to arrange shipping and/or installation

Būklė: dilaminuotas dirbtuvėje (naudotas), Funkcionalumas: visiškai funkcionalus, veleno skylė: 40 mm, centro aukštis: 160 mm, plotis centre: 650 mm, plunksnos brūkšnys: 85 mm, bendras ilgis: 1 600 mm, bendras plotis: 900 mm, bendras aukštis: 1 500 mm, Dear Sir or Madam, We are offering for sale a Weiler Praktikant 160B lathe equipped with a 3-axis digital readout. The machine has been extensively partially overhauled in our workshop, and is therefore in excellent technical and optical condition. All guides are in good order, the gearboxes run quietly, and the levers can be operated smoothly. You are welcome to inspect the machine on-site to verify its condition. Availability: upon request Centre height: 160 mm Centre distance: 650 mm Dedsu H U S Hspfx Aahocd Spindle bore: Ø 40 mm Tailstock taper: MT3 Quill stroke: 85 mm Longitudinal feed range: 0.020 – 0.630 mm/rev Cross slide feed range: 0.006 – 0.200 mm/rev Thread types: Metric, Inch, Module, Diametral Pitch Metric thread pitches: 0.25 – 8 mm Spindle brake: switchable Total connected load: 7.5 kVA Voltage: 400V Dimensions: approx. 1.58 x 0.9 x 1.5 m (L x H x W) Weight: approx. 720 kg Additional features and accessories: 3-axis digital readout, coolant system, chuck guard, jaw chuck, and further accessories available upon request... Our service commitment to you: - We are a certified master craftsman’s company specializing in mechanical engineering - All machines are thoroughly inspected - All lubricants and, if necessary, worn parts are replaced in advance - On request, we can perform a full or partial overhaul of the selected machine - On request, we can repaint the selected machine in your preferred color - On request, you can order additional accessories such as tools directly - On request, we can install additional accessories such as safety devices, etc. - We are happy to take care of shipping and/or installation

Būklė: dilaminuotas dirbtuvėje (naudotas), Funkcionalumas: visiškai funkcionalus, centro aukštis: 160 mm, plotis centre: 650 mm, sukimosi greitis (maks.): 4 000 aps./min, Įranga: sūkių greitis be galo kintamas, Dear Sir or Madam, We are offering for sale a Weiler Primus VC / Praktikant VC lathe. This machine series is particularly distinguished by its Siemens operator panel and the fully stepless speed control. As the name suggests, the VC is capable of operating at a constant cutting speed. The machine is comprehensively partially overhauled in our workshop, ensuring it is in excellent technical and visual condition. All slideways are in good order, the gearboxes run quietly, and the levers shift smoothly. You are welcome to inspect the machine and its condition at our premises. Availability: On request Centre height: 160 mm Centres distance: 650 mm Spindle bore: Ø 40 mm Tailstock taper: MT3 Quill stroke: 85 mm Possible thread types: Metric, Imperial, Module, Diametral Pitch Metric thread pitches: 0.25 - 8 mm Spindle brake: Switchable Voltage: 400V Dimensions: approx. 1.60 x 1.00 x 1.50 m (L x H x W) Weight: approx. 750 kg Additional equipment and accessories: Siemens operator panel, coolant system, chuck guard, leadscrew and feed rod covers, 2x emergency stop switches, operating manual, CE declaration of conformity, and much more available upon request. Our service promise to you: - We are a certified master craftsman workshop specialized in mechanical engineering - All machines are at least workshop-tested - All lubricants and any worn parts are replaced in advance - Upon request, we can fully or partially overhaul the selected machine for you - Upon request, we can repaint the selected machine in your preferred color - Upon request, you can order additional accessories such as tools together with the machine - Upon request, we can install extra accessories such as safety devices - We are also happy to arrange shipping and/or on-site installation for you Dedpfx Ajwhx I Noahecd

Būklė: dilaminuotas dirbtuvėje (naudotas), Funkcionalumas: visiškai funkcionalus, veleno skylė: 40 mm, centro aukštis: 160 mm, plotis centre: 650 mm, Dear Sir or Madam, For sale is a Weiler Praktikant 160B lathe equipped with a new 3-axis digital readout from K+C (including a 12-month manufacturer's warranty). The machine undergoes comprehensive partial refurbishment in our workshop so that it is in excellent technical and optical condition. All guideways are in good order, the gearboxes run quietly, and the levers operate smoothly. You are welcome to inspect the machine on site and convince yourself of its condition. Availability: On request Dcsdpswhzdmefx Aahed Centre height: 160 mm Centre distance: 650 mm Spindle bore: Ø 40 mm Tailstock taper: MK3 Quill stroke: 85 mm Longitudinal carriage feed range: 0.020 – 0.630 mm/rev Cross slide feed range: 0.006 – 0.200 mm/rev Thread cutting types: Metric, Inch, Module, Diametral Pitch Metric thread pitches: 0.25 – 8 mm Spindle brake: Switchable Total connected load: 7.5 kVA Voltage: 400V Dimensions: approx. 1.58 x 0.9 x 1.5 m (L x H x W) Weight: approx. 720 kg Additional features and equipment: New 3-axis digital readout, coolant system, chuck guard, leadscrew and feed shaft covers, 2x emergency stop, operating manual, and much more on request... Our service promise to you: - We are a certified master workshop in mechanical engineering - All machines are thoroughly checked - All lubricants and, if necessary, worn parts are replaced in advance - On request, we can overhaul the selected machine completely or partially - On request, we can repaint the selected machine in your desired colour - On request, you can order further accessories such as tools directly - On request, we can install additional equipment such as safety devices - We are happy to assist with shipping and/or installation